{"id":7032,"date":"2016-09-28T18:08:31","date_gmt":"2016-09-28T18:08:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.saic.edu\/cate\/?p=7032"},"modified":"2025-01-09T21:51:41","modified_gmt":"2025-01-10T03:51:41","slug":"on-sally-cruikshank","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/2016\/09\/28\/on-sally-cruikshank\/","title":{"rendered":"On Sally Cruikshank"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>This week, we are excited to welcome animator <a href=\"http:\/\/www.funonmars.com\">Sally Cruikshank<\/a> to kick off our\u00a0fall 2016 season!\u00a0In preparation,\u00a0we are excerpting part\u00a0of an interview with Cruikshank published by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artofthetitle.com\">Art of the Title<\/a>. In this interview, Cruikshank looks back over her career\u00a0with Art of the Title Managing Editor, Lola Landekic.<\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7033\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7033\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Cruikshank-Still-001-e1475089863741.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7033 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Cruikshank-Still-001-e1475089863741-1.png\" alt=\"Sally Cruikshank, still from Fun on Mars, 1971.\" width=\"450\" height=\"310\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Cruikshank-Still-001-e1475089863741-1.png 450w, https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Cruikshank-Still-001-e1475089863741-1-300x207.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7033\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sally Cruikshank, still from Fun on Mars, 1971.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Lola Landekic: <\/strong>So, maybe before we get into the major film work and the commercials and <em>Sesame Street<\/em> and the National Film Registry, we can start at the basics. How did you get into animation?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sally Cruikshank:<\/strong> Well, I was an art major in school at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smith.edu\/\">Smith<\/a>. In my senior year, I taught myself about animation and made a film. A professor helped me set up a photo enlarger and that got me started. I graduated early from Smith and went on to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfai.edu\/\">San Francisco Art Institute<\/a> because I wanted to get as far away from New England as possible! I made a couple of art films there, just on my own. One was called <em>Fun On Mars<\/em>, which was sort of my reaction to San Francisco.<\/p>\n<p>That was followed by one called\u00a0<em>Chow Fun<\/em>, for which I got a tiny grant from an organization that eventually became\u00a0<a title=\"South By South West Festival\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sxsw.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">South by Southwest<\/a>, many years later. While I was editing\u00a0<em>Chow Fun<\/em>\u00a0at Snazelle Films \u2014 I went in and rented a Moviola to edit it \u2014 I got a call that the boss wanted to see me. I finished the editing, and I thought, \u201cOh man, I must\u2019ve broken the Moviola.\u201d I thought I was in trouble. Instead he said, \u201cI want to hire you to experiment in animation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>LL: <\/strong>And that\u2019s how you got hired at Snazelle?<\/p>\n<p><strong>SC:\u00a0<\/strong>Yeah, so Gregg Snazelle hired me and I had this great job where they let me work on my own films. Gregg called it \u201cheading the animation department\u201d but it was just me, so I was just heading myself! He was hiring me to do commercials when we got them, and then the rest of the time to experiment with animation.<\/p>\n<p>They had recently done some great and recognized commercials for Levi\u2019s using rotoscope, one was called\u00a0<em><a title=\"The Stranger commercial by Snazelle Films\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/1970sLevisTheStranger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Stranger<\/a><\/em>\u00a0and it was very well designed, by Chris Blum. Gregg Snazelle won many awards for them. It was done in rotoscope which hadn\u2019t been seen much since the \u201940s. They revived rotoscope, really.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7044\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7044\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Connies-Shoes-e1475089976412.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7044 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Connies-Shoes-e1475089976412-1.jpg\" alt=\"Sally Cruikhank, still from Connie's Shoes advertisement, 1972.\" width=\"450\" height=\"330\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Connies-Shoes-e1475089976412-1.jpg 450w, https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/09\/Connies-Shoes-e1475089976412-1-300x220.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7044\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sally Cruikhank, still from Connie&#8217;s Shoes advertisement, 1972.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So then I did some commercials for them. I believe I did the first commercials for The Gap when it was still just a clothing store in San Francisco, and I did a commercial for Connie Shoes.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been looking for the rest of those commercials. I used to have them on a 3-quarter inch tape, but that wasn\u2019t a very strong format. They\u2019ve all disintegrated. Formats become obsolete so fast, it\u2019s just stunning. One-inch tape, too. That used to be like the rock solid format for commercials, for broadcasting, but that\u2019s another super fragile format that they can barely save anymore.<\/p>\n<p>We got very few commercial projects, actually, but I had to go to work, 40 hours a week, one hour for lunch, so I got busy and made cartoons.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that was so different is that Gregg didn\u2019t care about owning anything I did. I had signed no contract; there was no, \u201cAll of this belongs to me,\u201d which is everywhere now in the business. When my films were finally finished, he still didn\u2019t want to own them! They were my films and I\u2019d made them there. It was a wonderful arrangement.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7025\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7025\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/08\/09.29-SallyCruikshank_Quasi-e1471972052654.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7025 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/08\/09.29-SallyCruikshank_Quasi-e1471972052654-1.jpg\" alt=\"Sally Cruikshank, still from Quasi at the Quackadero, 1975. Image courtesy of the artist.\" width=\"450\" height=\"327\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/08\/09.29-SallyCruikshank_Quasi-e1471972052654-1.jpg 450w, https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/100\/2016\/08\/09.29-SallyCruikshank_Quasi-e1471972052654-1-300x218.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7025\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sally Cruikshank, still from Quasi at the Quackadero, 1975. Image courtesy of the artist.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>LL: <\/strong>What was animation like then, in the 1970s? How did the industry seem to you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>SC:\u00a0<\/strong>The industry was mainly down in Southern California, really. In Northern California we were so out of that. There was so little production going on there. Gregg was doing commercials, but it was more just art. I felt I was an artist experimenting with things. The scene in LA was very male-dominated, and in San Francisco there was very little animation going on&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>For more, visit:\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artofthetitle.com\/feature\/sally-cruikshank-a-career-retrospective-part-one\/\">Sally Cruikshank: A Career Retrospective, Part 1<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<\/em><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artofthetitle.com\/feature\/sally-cruikshank-a-career-retrospective-part-two\/\">Sally Cruikshank: A Career Retrospective, Part 2<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week, we are excited to welcome animator Sally Cruikshank to kick off our\u00a0fall 2016 season!\u00a0In preparation,\u00a0we are excerpting part\u00a0of an interview with Cruikshank published by Art of the Title. In this interview, Cruikshank looks back over her career\u00a0with Art of the Title Managing Editor, Lola Landekic. Lola Landekic: So, maybe before we get into [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"btn btn-secondary understrap-read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/2016\/09\/28\/on-sally-cruikshank\/\">Read More&#8230;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> from On Sally Cruikshank<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":206,"featured_media":7033,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[70,872,287,520],"class_list":["post-7032","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-21","tag-animation","tag-essays","tag-interviews","tag-sally-cruikshank"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7032","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/206"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7032"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7032\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9854,"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7032\/revisions\/9854"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7033"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7032"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7032"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sites.saic.edu\/cate\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7032"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}